tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6765326873689152060.post2435374527964853375..comments2012-04-18T11:19:15.204-07:00Comments on InsideAlcatraz - ALCATRAZ Theories and News: ALCATRAZ Episode 1.06 ("Paxton Petty"): Thoughts & TheoriesJohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16673632031827389282noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6765326873689152060.post-82786276067683037902012-02-19T18:49:27.384-08:002012-02-19T18:49:27.384-08:00Hi Jo-thanks for leading us into the fray again.
...Hi Jo-thanks for leading us into the fray again.<br /><br />Hmm- Lucy- well- it looked like her reason for talking to Madsen was that he was in the same section of the Army in Korea as Petty, and she hoped he would know about the song- which he did.<br /><br />So it does seem that she didn't know much about the secret experiments in the beginning, but by the end it was her "methods" that were used. So along the way she was recruited it looks like. Zort- yeah- she said the anesthetic was in the tea, and that what Petty thought was a pill and which he didn't take- was just a mint. <br /><br />I wonder if Sam Neill would have taken this part if he had known he was going to have to carry around so many people?Just Thinkinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07212625574272611535noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6765326873689152060.post-84409472152580827692012-02-15T12:21:25.977-08:002012-02-15T12:21:25.977-08:00I have to agree with Zort70 about Lucy//Lucille be...I have to agree with Zort70 about Lucy//Lucille being from some sort of version of the future. I've thought the same possibility myself. To me, it makes sense ((right now, anyway)).<br /><br />I'm no expert on anything AT ALL. && have the time I read//watch something, it takes a while to set in. That's why I really enjoy this blog. You guys ALL catch things that I don't think I EVER would ... even if I watched each episode 20 times. That being said, the only thing I'm having trouble wrapping my brain around is the fact that I can't figure out what the deal is with Lucy//Lucille. At this exact moment, it's the only thing driving me bananas. In the beginning, I totally thought she was behind a lot of it ... especially with her discussion at the Warden's dinner party. But after this episode && her questioning Dr. B about Madsen in the infirmary all the time, I'm beginning to wonder if she knows anything at all. Anybody got any thoughts??Ashley Stuarthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01310001503235279515noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6765326873689152060.post-34851891653813472412012-02-15T05:34:26.074-08:002012-02-15T05:34:26.074-08:00I had gotten the impression that, aside from the o...I had gotten the impression that, aside from the obvious imperative to get America's most evil prisoners off the street before they could hurt more folks, there also was an equal sense of urgency to gather them up before anyone even knew of their existence...and started to question why these folks hadn't aged since the early sixties. In the last couple of eps, we have seen prisoners literally "left behind" as the team wraps up another case. Jo, I was glad you took note of this. I can't fathom why we're not seeing New Alcatraz anymore...but especially can't understand why there isn't at least one ending shot/sense of urgency shown rushing the returnees away from the scene of their capture asap. Only criticism I'm carrying around but it is a biggie for me. Love the speculation from you and the readers about the details and meanings as always!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6765326873689152060.post-49329100708025358902012-02-15T02:11:50.074-08:002012-02-15T02:11:50.074-08:00After submitting that comment about Mental Time tr...After submitting that comment about Mental Time travel and reading the word Quantum again I suddenly thought "Sam Beckett" !<br /><br />What if Lucy's body in the 60's is inhabited by another mind.<br /><br />Also what if the returning prisoners and guards are bodies only and their minds are from elsewhere (or elsewhen !)<br /><br />Perhaps Hausers insistance in shooting / hurting them is a marker to say I have seen this physical body so if another version turns up I know it is not the one I shot ?<br /><br />It may be Scifi overload on my part but I kind of like that theory.Zort70https://www.blogger.com/profile/07422271592523903824noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6765326873689152060.post-79170610461767539112012-02-15T02:04:14.511-08:002012-02-15T02:04:14.511-08:00Thanks Jo, lots of good stuff as always.
To me Lu...Thanks Jo, lots of good stuff as always.<br /><br />To me Lucy is too modern for the 1960's my own view is that she started off in the present day and has gone back somehow.<br /><br />Whether this is by some mental time travel mechanism (shakes fist at Daniel Faraday) or physical I'm not sure.<br /><br />By the way didn't she say the sedative was in the tea not the mints ?Zort70https://www.blogger.com/profile/07422271592523903824noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6765326873689152060.post-65204047507330872662012-02-15T01:37:47.209-08:002012-02-15T01:37:47.209-08:00OH I found the mugshot on Fox/ Alcatraz. Odd I hav...OH I found the mugshot on Fox/ Alcatraz. Odd I haven't looked there since the premiere I think. Ooooops! <br /><br />Also I forgot to mention another continuity error...<br /><br />young Emerson Hauser has been seen a few times wearing the SFPD badge# 9726, but when Hauser opens his steamer trunk his old jacket has badge# 9021.<br /><br />Photo evidence:<br />http://mediacdn.disqus.com/uploads/mediaembed/images/212/6472/original.jpg <br /><br />and<br /><br />http://mediacdn.disqus.com/uploads/mediaembed/images/212/6473/original.jpgdarqhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17148275289843194301noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6765326873689152060.post-75246095410913478022012-02-14T21:52:44.929-08:002012-02-14T21:52:44.929-08:00Great stuff as usual!
Jo, where did you see a Pax...Great stuff as usual!<br /><br />Jo, where did you see a Paxton Petty Alcatraz mugshot? I only saw the two SFPD mugshots of Petty, one on Doc's tablet and the other in Hauser's file. I would love to see the mugshot if you could link it....<br /><br />I'm beginning to think the time discrepancies are not a mistake and part of a pattern. Maybe someone (Lucy or Tommy Madsen) has gone from 2012 to 1960 and changed the past. All the documents on Alcatraz seem to have kept their original dates or timestamps if you will, but off the island so many things have changed. The bombing articles you point out, Van Madsen's birth date on the tombstone, Sweeney recognizing a car model that did not exist when he was incarcerated.... etc.darqhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17148275289843194301noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6765326873689152060.post-47320941286351294092012-02-14T19:23:34.591-08:002012-02-14T19:23:34.591-08:00Thanks so much JO! btw - didn't Hauser say &qu...Thanks so much JO! btw - didn't Hauser say "you know her tactics (or something similar) - fix her..." or did I imagine it. Which really means that whoever she really is or is working for - it's Lucy's "science" that is responsible for bringing the 63's back. Could be I'm just repeating someone else here - just unclearing the fog in my brain.Lisahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14065189029023847018noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6765326873689152060.post-71509114498604332312012-02-14T19:04:30.637-08:002012-02-14T19:04:30.637-08:00“Paxton Petty” -- LOST "ON THE BEACH"
R...“Paxton Petty” -- LOST "ON THE BEACH"<br /><br />Recap: Alcatraz inmate, ex-Korean War hero Paxton Petty wakes up in a graveyard and resumes his old ways of causing mayhem with his "Bouncing Betty" mines because he didn't get a Silver Star. Moral of the story: blowback is a bouncing Betty bitch.<br /><br />Soto at once recognizes PP's MO, the chase is afoot, and eventually Hauser shoots PP in the leg, after nearly losing both of his ON THE BEACH.<br /><br />Funny how a show that is "not at all like LOST" has a big scene ON THE BEACH. Like LOST, "Alcatraz" has so many questions and so few answers. Let US hope "Alcatraz" doesn't leave US hanging like John Locke.<br /><br />This is the first episode that a '63er has apparently not been sent back on a mission to kill someone. PP's mines are indiscriminate killers. Once again "Doc" Soto is the first to recognize the patter of a returning '63er. Gee, if it wasn't for Doc, there wouldn't be a show. Hmmmmm...<br /><br />Hauser could have been PP's intended target, but PP says he has no idea why he came back. Hauser steps in it big time when he sets foot on his Dooms Day bomb ON THE BEACH. She-Steve and Doc have to figure out the buried clues before the buried bomb sends Hauser to the Big House in the Sky. Perhaps PP's mission was to send US a message:<br /><br />"On the Beach" was a story set in a future 1964, in the months following World War III. The conflict has devastated the northern hemisphere, polluting the atmosphere with nuclear fallout and killing all life. While the bombs were confined to the northern hemisphere, air currents are slowly carrying the fallout south. The only areas still habitable are in the far southern hemisphere, like Australia. Curiously, LOST also centered on Australia and the US. <br /><br /><br />Bombs Away in a Mad, Mad World: Two WindWards and Two Trees (VV) make WWW 3.John Scotthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03782821874768706750noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6765326873689152060.post-25558435492332501422012-02-14T18:38:16.054-08:002012-02-14T18:38:16.054-08:00Thanks for the insight. I was thinking Metallica S...Thanks for the insight. I was thinking Metallica Sandman -sleep with one eye open...now I lay me down to sleep, if I die I pray the lord my soul to keep. (And a Kia commercial just came on singing your cited Sandman version creepy!) The Korrean War connections are fascinating. Interesting, underappreciated and sad history.lennyghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12471177899351472132noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6765326873689152060.post-19737907028689085592012-02-14T17:02:32.992-08:002012-02-14T17:02:32.992-08:00I've always liked Jorge's character (Hurle...I've always liked Jorge's character (Hurley and Doc Soto) being the voice of the fan. Telling Petty one of his many theories emphasizes this. <br /><br />It also might be Lucy's plan to "woo" young Hauser, so that there will be someone on the receiving end of this "experiment" in 2012. Someone was needed to retrieve her from 1963 and bring her into 2012.mavenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01159992386642158559noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6765326873689152060.post-4842892830852480502012-02-14T16:51:10.755-08:002012-02-14T16:51:10.755-08:00Love your blog (as I loved your LOST blog as well)...Love your blog (as I loved your LOST blog as well). Thanks. And keep it up.oldrunner262https://www.blogger.com/profile/01174460096767641827noreply@blogger.com